Ancient Grains Cereal Saison Brew Session

Brew Session Info

5/22/2018
(Include any important notes from brew day until tasting)

I didn't grind the black pepper; the coriander and lime peel were already ground so I got lazy and skipped that step. Pitched 375mL yeast slurry from prior brew. Oxygenated for 1.5 minutes. 5/26/18 - bubbling is still going, about once every couple seconds. Krausen was about 1cm. There's a lot of yeast goop still leftover on the surface. Surprisingly, the color is lighter than the lager version. Go figure. 5/30/18 - still a slow trickle of bubbles 6/7/18 - bubbling has subsided, mostly, but there is still action. 6/11/18 - pulled 1.012. The sample had yeast phenolics and then some fusel alcohol. Ironically, I never did put the heat wrap on this one. I'll give this another couple weeks to continue drying out before I rack or bottle. 6/26/18 - this is still bubbling just ever so slightly. My only guess is that the cereal had a lot of complex sugars that didn't break down so well in the mash and now the yeast is slowly digesting them. I am racking this to another fermenter and will allow it to settle a bit with the hope that it stops all activity. 6/29/18 - racked to secondary. Filled two by one gallon fermenters with 2.5 cups pineapple or mango juice and then the saison on top. Remainder went into fermenter by itself. I will give this a couple weeks to age. Pulled 1.009 on the pycnometer. 7/13/18 - bottling today. Utilizing 3 cups of water to boil 5.5oz dextrose, 0.5 cup to each gallon. Pulled 1.008 on the pycnometer. The samples tasted not so great due to all the fusel alcohol present. I'm thinking these saisons might be a bust.

Water Infusion

Brew Session Specific

17.5 lb kg
68 °FC
154 °FC
1.5 qt/lbl/kg
60 min.
9 gals liters

Equipment Profile

0.15 gals/lb liters/kg
0.01 gals/lb liters/kg
°FC
0.25 gals liters
0.5 gals liters
1 gals/hour liters/hour
0.2 gals liters

Calculated Totals

13.50 gals liters
7.96 gals liters
6.81 gals liters
165.05 °FC
165.05 °FC
4.18 gals liters
6.69 gals liters
10.70 gals liters

Mash / Boil

Mash

5.4 PH
154 °FC
150 °FC
60 minutes

Boil

1.052 1.063 (estimated)
11 gallons liters 10.70 (gallonsliters estimated)
60 minutes minutes (60 minutes estimated)
10 gals liters

Gravity Estimates

Based on boiling 11.00 gallonsliters at 1.052 for 60 minutes, this will decrease your wort by 1.00 gallonsliters, bringing your after boil OG to 1.057.

You wanted an OG of 1.069. It looks like it will be under.

Fermentation

5.5 gallons liters 9.00 (gallonsliters estimated)
1.069 (1.069 predicted)
1.009 (1.008 predicted)

Conditioning

7/13/2018
10
Dextrose
6 oz g

Tasting Notes (3)

CheeseNips

Tasted on 8/17/2018 by CheeseNips

Notes:

Saison alone - pours half a finger of foam that dissipates quickly with a mahogany color. Aroma is sweet bread pudding with raisins and a slight alcohol aroma. Flavor is sweet raisin with some maple syrup bread pudding in the background, followed by a little bit if alcohol heat, but quickly overtaken by a sweet raisin breath. Body is a bit thin but not terribly watery and then a bit of sharpness from the carbonation. The flavor is great, best I've achieved with a Belgian. I am disappointed with the carbonation, and I feel like this is holding it back. 4 out of 5 due to carbonation issues.

CheeseNips

Tasted on 7/24/2018 by CheeseNips

Notes:

Pineapple version - pours very dark orange with about 1 finger of foam. Aroma is fig and some spicy yeast phenols with a sweet element that is pineapple like. Flavor follows the nose but with a slightly vinegar or vinuous quality that I don't care for. The body is thin with a bit too little carbonation. Overall, this is an okay beer but it's not something that I'd be pleased with at a bar. I'll give it 2 stars.

CheeseNips

Tasted on 7/21/2018 by CheeseNips

Notes:

Mango version - pours little foam so likely undercarbed. Color is on the verge of brown and opaque. Aroma is sweet malt and mango, more sweet malt than mango though. Flavor is a sweet bread pudding with raisins and then mango as a backdrop. Body is fine, a little heavier than I'd expect of a saison but not quite medium. There's some nucleation sharpness but not as much as there should be. The beer overall is pretty much what I hoped for, a malty saison with little more than subtle mango flavor. The base saison is just okay, not really what I wanted, and the lower carbonation is a technical flaw. In the end, I'll go with 4 stars.

Comments

  • CheeseNips

    Scored a 24.5 at the Oregon State Fair. Supposedly the green bottles led to a light struck quality and there was a banana flavor due, possibly, to distressed yeast or infection.

    7 years ago
  • CheeseNips

    Prior comment is for the lager version of this beer. The saison was entered as a Dubbel and scored a 29.5 at the Oregon State Fair. Flavor was lacking compared to aroma and the beer was salty, too many minerals.

    7 years ago

Recipe Facts

Ancient Grains Cereal Saison
Saison
  • 9.00 Gallons Liters Batch Size
  • 10.00 Gallons Liters Boil Size
  • 60  min Boil Time
  • 1.069 OG
  • 1.008 FG
  • 27.3 IBU (tinseth) Bitterness
  • 0.40 BG:GU
  • 21.6° SRM Color
  • 94% Efficiency
  • 7.8% ABV Alcohol
  • 231 per 12oz Calories
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